Asked about the situation of Barcelona forward and Cameroon international Samuel Eto'o (28), Barcelona manager Josep Guardiola has said at a press conference that he made the decision that the striker has to leave this summer:
"I'm convinced that the best thing for Barça is that Eto'o leaves. Can I be wrong? Of course. But I'm there to make a series of decisions. I feel that this is the best for the club and for the team.
This decision is exclusively mine. It's a feeling I have. I cannot change the character of anyone, but I can decide on which players I can count next season. After what we won last season, we need to make some changes in the dressing-room. And that doesn't only involve Samuel but also other players. I took this decision based on my experience as a player.
I perfectly understand that the people ask why, but this is my decision. Samuel is a great player and our excellent performances last season were, among other things, thanks to him. Without Samuel we probably wouldn't have won that many trophies. When we asked him to sacrifice himself for the team, he did that without complaining. So there are no sporting reasons. Samuel has his character, his personality and that makes him who he is. There's no one serious fact that lead to this decision.
I'm grateful to Samuel. He's fantastic. He has been an example on and off the pitch. I didn't yet talk to him about this. I hope he won't be angry. I always try to be straight and talk face-to-face. I cannot live otherwise. Of course there's a chance he stays and if that happens, we'll analyze the situation. I don't think we can keep Eto'o and sign Ibrahimovic. We're rich but not that rich."
Monday, 20 July 2009
Guardiola wants Eto'o to leave
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Uhm what was the source of this?
Which that character quote, Inter will sure be happy to have him now... And Eto'o has another reason to feel damaged.
*sigh*
good bye Eto'o
watever happens in PEP WE TRUST!
Last season it was his qualities as footballer that didn't fit his game plan. Eto'o kind of proved him wring and as a thank-you now suddenlyit's his character...
Seems Pep holds some kind of grudge against Et'oo and wants him out any way, whatever he does.
breaking news on goal.com says the exact opposite....:P
2day Pep will have a press confrence to clarify everything
Well at least goal.com has a source. Sky sport italia, although i dont know how they know what is going on in spain. Our article has no source so i dont know if i can believe it.
Pep IS having press conference RIGHT NOW
sport.es
& he has all the right to exclude any player from his plans
in PEP WE TRUST
Guess the Italians missed the translation. Or goal.com missed the Italian to English translation. This version is in the Spanish papers everywhere.
Different sites pick up on different parts of the quote. Pep said this and also said if Eto'o forces his stay then Ibra probably won't come. There can't be 2 main strikers on the team.
The press conference is happening right now. Our source is Sport.es and you can read the full quotes from Pep.
The Italians don't want to lose Ibrahimovic so they're picking out quotes to make it seem like Pep wants to keep Ibra and goal.com is reporting Italian media's interpretation.
But according to Pep's quotes he's definitely saying it was his decision, a feeling, to change from Eto'o to someone else.
*typo, keep Eto'o I mean
Pep confirmed that Henrique will stay.
Ok thanks. I believe Sport over Sky Sport Italia when it comes to what Guardiola has said.
Does Eto'o have swine flu? I just can't understand Pep and our board. They seem so desperate to get rid of Eto'o, even last season they were desperate. What's wrong? I hate the way we get rid of our players. Always on the cheap, for ridiculous prices.
Its better for barca to swap etoo with Zlatan because if he leaves for free we have to look for a striker in which now we have an agreement with Inter on Zlatan.
First of all I don't know why you're still blaming our board. It was the gaffer's decision, you either trust him or you don't.
Secondly, is it not possible that it's just time for a change? We could be talking about many things, but perhaps Pep just feels it's time for a change. We'll never really know exactly why. It could be he feels Eto'o is on the decline, it could be locker room problems we don't know about, it could be fear of complacency. Whatever the reason, why is it so terrible when a club wants to make a change? Maybe it's just time.
Anonymous its the manager who decides who goes and who leaves, so if he says Eto'o should leave than he should. Yes the board had some wrong desicions on Eto'o but i think its better for him to leave so the fans will not forget him and always remember him as the ultimate striker. Even though i want Zlatan but Eto'o will be heavily missed.
Ok how much did we sell deco for? 10 million euros. Would you say his value has increased or decreased since? How much did we sell ronaldinho for? 25 million euros. Would you say his vaule has increased or decreased since? How much did we sell gio for? 6 million + a possible further 5. Would you pay 6 million euros for gio now given that he could not make it at struggling tottenham hotspur? How much did we sell zambrotta for? 9 million for a 31 year old? Thats a pretty good price if you ask me.
We dont get big money for our players because we are not a selling club. The biggest players in the world spend their prime here and then leave after their prime is over. We are not arsenal we do not sell our best players every year. Ronaldo and Figo both brought huge sums but we were not happy to see them go.
agree with barca4life
i will throw party for everyone here if eto'o situation is solved :)
I will be grateful to eto'o if he leaves without bringing any further trouble to disrupt our transfer activities.We have suffered a lot this year just because of his grudge towards our club.we missed out villa who is a awesome personality and a role model both on-field and off field.we couldn't concentrate in our midfield and left wing just because of complicacy around hi.so the sooner he leaves the better for all of us.
Imagine this quotes are true. Then you see how silly pep and the baord are? Its not nice hearing these things in the TV first. pep has said (according to this story) that he hasnt spoken to Eto about it, yet goes live on TV to say it. And how much do you think that would help decrease Etos value if Inter dont sign him? Every one now know (if they didnt)that we want him out at all cost. If was a buying club, I would offer 7Mil Euros.
And before you all come for my head, I am saying a BIG "IF" cos i dont believ Pep would act in this manner, i.e Speak to the press before speaking to whoever is directly involved
Uh no....NouBarca that's not what happened.
Pep told the board he doesn't want Eto'o. The board tells Eto'o Pep doesn't count on him, Eto'o doesn't believe the board.
Then Eto'o via his agent holds a press conference to insult the club and call them liars.
Then Eto'o via his agent says he will speak to Pep Guardiola.
Then a week later he says he doesn't want to speak to Guardiola and stopped answering the board's calls.
THEN the Pep press conference happened.
STOP BLINDLY DEFENDING ETO'O.
well if its true, he just want to get eto'o out but didnt have the time to say it in person to eto'o. maybe its the wrong move, but maybe its because he is in negotiation with inter right now.
And Pep can't lower Eto'o's transfer value...Eto'o already lowered it to zero with the press conference calling out the club, rejection of the Man City offer, and then demanding a 15 million signing bonus. Nobody wanted to buy Eto'o before the press conference, so don't blame Pep for 'bringing his transfer fee down' that's not true.
"I didn't yet talk to him about this. I hope he won't be angry. I always try to be straight and talk face-to-face. I cannot live otherwise."
why then talking to the media first and not "face-to-face" to etoo.
respect pep and love barca, but the whole etoo-case is for me, shameful.
this whole thing should be done behind the scene by both sides and not always "face-to-face" to the media.
but i guess, it's because barca is more than a club.
excuse my talk, but all the many, many years i'm barcafan now, never happened such ridiculous stuff IN THIS FORM it happened, saying again, with respect, as the on-the-pitch-goals were all reached, but the off-the-pitch-behave seems to leave a bitter taste.
believe, that many see this thing from an other view, but that's mine
O, I like the way you put it. You were there and you are not defending the board blinding.
So dont you think Eto is worth 10mins of Peps time?
Have you been following the news on the transfer blog at all?
During the press conference Eto'o's agent said 'we want to speak to Guardiola personally'
Then a few days later he said, 'there's no need to speak to Guardiola' and that's around the same time Laporta says Eto'o won't return his calls anymore. Look at the archives man.
He like to talk straight but he didn't yet talk to Eto'o in person. Du-uh...
If you're going to attack someone based on his character, you could talk it through first. I mean, it's almost two months since the CL final, he had enough time to talk with Eto'o and explain him his reasons.
By the way: why did the board offer Eto'o a renewal for two years if Guardiola wanted him out right now...
"Without Samuel we probably would have won that many trophies"
doesn't that have to be wouldN'T?
cause it sounds strange in the rest of the paragraph..
I like how you guys are blaming Guardiola for 'dragging this out into the public' and not keeping it behind closed doors. Barca never wanted to take it out to the public. It's Eto'o and his agent who held the press conference that made it public.
Barca wanted to sell Eto'o quietly. But Eto'o didn't want to be sold so he made a big stink and dragged it out into the public.
Is there a way that I pass some cold drinks to all of you? :)
Guys, you've been screaming on each other for more than two weeks already, saying the same things. And I may sound without sense if I say its mostly lot of nonsense in the heat of debates. Eto'o is a great player who must be respected. The coach needs must be respected as well. The board did exactly what the coach asked, which is the best thing they can do, and must do. And most importantly: "No one really know what happened behind the curtains, or whats happening at the moment, nor why every party is saying this or that."
Lets see how it ends, then we talk.
Alright, I know non of the two armies will like this comment, so I will vanish again.
as i said, this whole stuff, is a shame and ridiculous and seems to become a bigger mystery than jfk's assassination.
impossible to find truth in all this mix of lies, barca-etoo-media-talk.
i guess, i should follow pep's earlier advice to take a walk and come back end of august, when the on-the-pitch-sport-stuff is primary again, as this s****y talk is getting a waste of time
I have no problem with what you said Ramzi. That's exactly my point.
NouBarca, groga and them want to jump in and blame Pep/the board every time some quotes come out for their perceived 'disrespect' towards Eto'o. That's the only reason I'm defending them at all, because there's really no telling exactly what happened.
Like them saying why can't Guardiola tell Eto'o this in person. Well if you followed the news you know there's a possible reason why Guardiola didn't. Also the board did tell Eto'o that, his agent said as much, they just didn't believe them.
i am not yet sure whether eto'o staying or leaving.but pre-season is approaching and we need all our new signing participate in pre-season match so that they can stay fit for whole season
"I like how you guys are blaming Guardiola for 'dragging this out into the public' and not keeping it behind closed doors. Barca never wanted to take it out to the public. It's Eto'o and his agent who held the press conference that made it public."
It was Guardiola who made it public one year ago. And Laporta has been talking the whole summer telling half-truths, as well as leaking to the press. Eto'o has spoken once. Guess he was entitled to after the operation by the club to damage him...
Now we were close to a settlement and now this again. Tiring.
i have been following this blog for over a year and i have noticed whenever some quotes come with negative news regarding barca or anything related to eto'o noubarca and groga jumps out and rush here to bash our board or even pep.No matter
after achieving almost everything in his short coaching career eto'o is much bigger to him according to these 2 guys.
So we're back to the disrespect card again. Because they wanted a change from the old era of Ronaldinho/Deco/Eto'o it's 'disrespectful'. Give me a break. How come Deco and Ronaldinho got sold without problems?
Who made it public this year? Did Mesalles not hold a press conference calling the club liars? He said the club told him Pep Guardiola didn't want Eto'o anymore (which now turns out to be true) and he said he didn't believe the club. Before that the club didn't say shit about Eto'o except Laporta said a few times 'Eto'o's the best striker in the world'.
And others come out to bash Eto'o. What's the difference?
"Did Mesalles not hold a press conference calling the club liars?"
Which was true. Laporta had been lying about the offer of City that would made him the best paid player in the world.
"He said the club told him Pep Guardiola didn't want Eto'o anymore (which now turns out to be true) and he said he didn't believe the club."
He didn't say that. He said he wanted to hear it from Guardiola himself. Which apparently still didn't happen...
Who's bashing Eto'o? Everyone was just saying 'ok so it's true Guardiola doesn't count on Eto'o' or 'I hope it gets resolved'
It wasn't until NouBarca started with his club bashing "Then you see how silly pep and the baord are? Its not nice hearing these things in the TV first."
I responded because he's missing some key information as to WHY they didn't speak before this press conference such as Eto'o's agent saying "we no longer need to speak to Guardiola" and Laporta saying Eto'o is ignoring Barcelona's calls.
guys wait.eto'os agent is holding talk with inter.according to emd the main stumbling block is eto'o is demanding 10-15 m euro signing money from them.this is the reason man city declined to sign him.if eto'o doesn't decrease such ridiculous demand i dont expect inter to sign him :(
Again, the reason why they didn't speak. Could it not be because Eto'o was avoiding their calls?
Mesalles said during the press conference that he wanted to personally speak to Pep. Can't they contact Pep? Why did he say a few days later 'we no longer need to speak to Guardiola?'
"I responded because he's missing some key information as to WHY they didn't speak before this press conference such as Eto'o's agent saying "we no longer need to speak to Guardiola" and Laporta saying Eto'o is ignoring Barcelona's calls."
Your so-called key information is a press report, so probably fake, so not so KEY as you want it to be. I hope you at least agree that it's better to talk these things through in private first.
via SPORT, in Pep's press conference, he also kinda confirmed that we have keirrison and that he will be loaned out
i also read on emd that eto'o demands signing money of around 10 to 15 million euro.i don't think inter wont sign him on such terms and conditions.cause it will set bad example for them as in future if they want to sign any world class player they will demand such hefty signing money.
First of all it's been well established that Man City made an offer. If they didn't make an offer they wouldn't need to 'withdraw' their offer on their official site saying Eto'o took too long to make up his mind.
Secondly they spent the money planned for Eto'o on Adebayor who now has the highest wages in England so I'm not sure how our club lied about the offer.
If anything the Man City offer ESTABLISHED that Mesalles is a clear liar by denying the offer existed.
"Why did he say a few days later 'we no longer need to speak to Guardiola?'"
He did NOT say that. He gave one press conference and that's it.
thats a mouthful from pep. its not for sporting reasons he says, so its must be kind of personal. a "feeling" he has, wow. wonder how eto'o must be feeling right now. i admire pep's honesty tho he kinds of come across as a prima donna himself with this feeling thingy. should have stuck with sporting reasons. would have gone down easier publicly for etoo. i'm with him though, i think hes right about wanting ibra. just a "feeling" i have hehe.
First of all he was quoted by a reporter as saying "we no longer need to speak to Guardiola"
Secondly I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that he never said that. Eto'o was eager to find out about his future, Mesalles said so himself. Why can't they call Pep? I never heard them say 'oh Pep isn't taking our calls' But I sure heard Guardiola say Eto'o isn't taking our calls.
"First of all it's been well established that Man City made an offer. If they didn't make an offer they wouldn't need to 'withdraw' their offer on their official site saying Eto'o took too long to make up his mind."
You're again twisting fact against Eto'o. They made an offer to Barça, didn't speak with Eto'o, that's where Laporta was lying. And City said it took too much time between Barça and Eto'o, just that.
"If anything the Man City offer ESTABLISHED that Mesalles is a clear liar by denying the offer existed."
Offer to Barça is not an offer to Eto'o. What are you missing?
And take a nick.
"Why can't they call Pep? I never heard them say 'oh Pep isn't taking our calls' But I sure heard Guardiola say Eto'o isn't taking our calls."
Not Guardiola. Laporta. Your fact are always wrong. While other sources say he didn't even try to call him.
And if you have a running contract, it's not up to you to call around to ask what's up.
xaviniesta personal reason is eto'o is not in good terms with our boss.did u notice a sports report where they mentioned guardiola forced eto'o to leave traning ground for not following his instructions.even there was another report in sports where they reported that eto'o abused goodjohnson for not supplying him ball in front of opponents goal.imagine he does same thing to messi,iniesta or even xavi.it will simply cause a havoc in the dressing room
You're arguing semantics, and what you're arguing doesn't even make sense.
What goes on during a transfer according to the rules:
Offer to club, club accepts, offer to player, player decides.
In reality intermediaries, agents talk about personal offers way beforehand.
If you believe their bullshit that there's never a 'personal offer' which is what you're holding onto to be technically 'right' on the Man City offer. Then what was holding up the personal offer? Was Barcelona not accepting? Are you kidding me? The only person that could hold up the Man City offer is Eto'o and Eto'o alone.
We all know Barcelona was desperate to sell Eto'o. So why would there not be a personal offer? Does that even make sense to you?
They are not children. If everyone who showns his unhappiness on training should be out, we'd probably have only Iniesta left.
Hleb, Henry and Touré also missed trainings, but that's not all over the press...
whatever happens my bad feelings is we couldn't sign a great player like villa just because of failing to find a club for eto'o
I know it's Laporta, I made a typo.
Again, picking on semantics rather than having a logical argument. We all know about what was reported. It's up to us to decide what we believe out of those reports.
"So why would there not be a personal offer? Does that even make sense to you?"
Of course. They were waiting for the green light of Barça that didn't come. So they turned to another option.
Haha, now you're just ignoring facts. Even you admit Barca wanted to get rid of him.
YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT HOW LAPORTA LIED ABOUT THERE BEING AN OFFER. WHY WOULD LAPORTA NOT GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT IF HE WANTS ETO"O TO ACCEP THE OFFER.
FAIL
i fear eto'o will stay and we will not be able to sign any prolific striker.and next he will go to ACN and will be injured and out of team for the rest of the season.even if eto'o forces his stay we must sign a world class forward(even forlan will do for me) and make him our new number 9.
anony, you are commenting now all the time, also calling noubarca an idiot. would be nice to put your name above your comments (pep showed many times how this can be done), so some could call you the keyholder to truth, and some others could maybe give dumbness your name.
would be good, if some world's regimes would be that enthusiastic, then maybe, world wouldn't have so many unemployment and homeless
Guess no one ever said that they didn't want to get rd of him. We knew that since last year...
The green light had to come after negotiations between Barça and Eto'o. By the way: Barça offered him a renewal for two years. Guess that must have been confusing for City...
LeónDragón,its his personal matter.he has right to decide whether he puts his name on web or not.
Right, what I'm saying is dumb. I just pointed out the logical contradiction in groga's whole argument. But I'm dumb.
It's a loop.
Groga's claims:
Laporta lied about Man City offer because,
Laporta didn't give the green light for Eto'o to accept the offer because,
Laporta wants to get rid of Eto'o?!
makes sense to me groga
groga nope dude man city turned down eto'o cause he demanded signing money of 15 million euro.check out EMD or goal site for details.bsides barca offered him 3 years contract extention.it's a fact.you can ask ny fan here or even pep if u feel i am wrong
Makes perfectly sense if you put it right and not twist it and link things that shouldn't be linked...
"The green light had to come after negotiations between Barça and Eto'o."
Ohhhh, so now we're back to this. So can you admit it's because Eto'o was demanding a hefty 15 million bonus that Barca didn't want to pay?
"By the way: Barça offered him a renewal for two years. Guess that must have been confusing for City..."
You and I both know that was for show so Eto'o and Mesalles can play the disrespect card with the 'we never got an offer'. But it turned out he still tried to use that to play the disrespect card anyway.
typo
*can't play the the disrespect card
you're right robin, but when it gets personal, by calling people idiots, personality needs names to identify opponents.
it has sense, because otherwise, everyone could attack people, hiding behind anonimity, what could look for me, look like, fainthearted or coward-like
"groga nope dude man city turned down eto'o cause he demanded signing money of 15 million euro.check out EMD or goal site for details."
Who says? You're gonna believe EMD or Goal? That's childish, they're writing more lies than truths. And EMD has always been an anti-Eto'o paper, for your information.
Note: every player gets a part of the transfer fee. Zlatan will have a big one too, believe me.
"You and I both know that was for show so Eto'o and Mesalles can play the disrespect card with the 'we never got an offer'. But it turned out he still tried to use that to play the disrespect card anyway."
Right so, because a "show offer" is even more disrespectful than no offer, in my opinion.
Certainly, he gets a loyalty bonus as a portion of the transfer fee for not requesting the transfer.
What Eto'o wants is beyond that, he wants his bonus because he knows he can get a signing bonus when he leaves for free next year.
Btw LeonDragon,
I never personally attacked groga once. I never called him an idiot. I said he was contradicting himself with his arguments. You're the one who called me dumb for some reason when I wasn't even speaking to you.
How do you know what he wants?! Please, tell me. We only know that Mesalles denied the rumour saying that the board had leaked it to the press to make him look greedy for the fans. The board succeeded apparently...
Let me just say this. There is only 1 person in charge of the dressing room at barcelona and that is Josep Guardiola. If Guardiola does not want etoo then I say, thank you very much for your service etoo, thank you for your goals, thank you for the trophies but dont let the door hit you on the way out.
LeonDragon and Dumbness plase dude no personal attack.we all are friend here and we support barca.thats why we are here.may be our opinion differs but our goal is always same :)
well said barca4life :)
If there's a contract signed by both parties, then it's not that easy, b4l. Footballers have rights like every man and a contract should be respected unless both agree to put an end to it.
one thing want to say too, for me, in all written comments here, there's truth, but to find the real truth, is beyond our reach, as no one here knows what was true or not, published by the medias, as the whole etoo-case started one year ago. people discussing here with arguments based on media-talk and that can be no basis, for a worthy discussion, as also no one here is involved into any barca-actions
Because if you look at the facts he IS greedy. And that's his right to be greedy. If I had a job offer for more money I'd take the new job offer. I never said there's anything wrong with it.
It's the Board/club bashers who are always coming on with the 'disrespect' and 'shame' and 'loyalty' stuff that doesn't make any sense.
The club is doing what's best for itself and Eto'o is doing what's best for himself. But he can't win fan support that way so he has to make it seem like the club is 'disrespecting' him.
How do I know what he wants? Well let's look at the Man City offer. You keep saying there was no offer, that was the whole basis for the Laporta lie. Well whether or not there's a personal offer the Man City offer was clearly on the table. What stopped the agreement? You and I both agree Barca and Eto'o can't come to an agreement over money. What else is there?
i haven't checked pep's interview yet.what he said about keirrison.are we bringing him this season??even if etoo stays(hope he leaves) we need atleast one more striker to cover messi and henry
"You keep saying there was no offer, that was the whole basis for the Laporta lie."
Laporta didn't want to repeat it afterwards, so he just plainly lied there.
woot.. Iniesta has a Street named after Him!! :D
trez i agree with you partially.but if boss doesn't want a player in his dressing room he has the right to bench him for the whole seaoson.eto'o could force his stay but now he is looking for his exit cause staying on the bench for the whole season is really dangerous for a striker who is reaching his 30.
Trez plz. We have a right to protect ourselves. And if we see a chance that we could lose etoo for nothing and Guardiola does not feel that etoo is good for our dressing room then we have a right to end the contract.
You're still arguing over semantics. Man City definitely made an offer. Man City themselves confirmed it. There's no lie there.
All this 'whether the club gave the green light' nonsense is irrelevant. The offer was there, it wasn't taken because Eto'o/the club couldn't agree on the money. Why can't they agree on the money? Because Eto'o feels like he can get 15 million by leaving for free, that's the crux of this whole thing. He knows he can leave for free next year for 15 million euros. He doesn't want to leave that on the table.
to dumbness, please cule, don't call yourself by that, as i don't called you so. read my comment again.
don't think, that you wrong, but also think that others also ain't, as i wrote my thaughts about this stuff in my last comment.
to robin, don't play ms. theresa, as i never attacked anyone, so for you too, read my comment again.
already have a mother and a father, so don't need your maternally help nanny
i am damn sure when rosell will be our president in upcoming election groga will start singing for laporta.many of us dont realize that laporta has changed our fortune.i fear our situation would be exactly same like valencia if laporta didn't come to presidency
LeónDragón ,see u called him dumb and now calling me miss theresa.i dont have anything more to tell you
I hope now that etoo realizes that guardiola thinks its best for him to move along that he does go. As for the election laporta has said he is going to back a member of the current board and there was talk of laporta perhaps returning as a Vice President with a member of the Current board as President. I do hope that is the case. This board has done more for the club than any other board has done in a very long time. 3 trophyless years when laporta took over. Revolutionized the system 3 la liga titles and 2 CL titles in 5 years one of the most succesful periods in the clubs history.
riki for your information as far i know keirrison will be loaned out to a spanish club for this season
SOOOOO WIEEERDDD!!!!
First PEP GUARDIOLA says he does NOT think we can keep etoo and sign ibrahimovic.
AND THEN, LAPORTA says: Ibrahimovic is coming whether etoo stays or leaves!
Something really wierd is happening..PEP can u please explain these two comments made by barca. Thanks!
it's funny to see, how groga became a laporta-enemy, surely against his will. best for all could be, to bring a lawyer, to make sure, words don't get turned against you at the end.
feel for all of you, ONE LOVE and BARCA FOREVER!!!!!
"trez i agree with you partially.but if boss doesn't want a player in his dressing room he has the right to bench him for the whole seaoson."
Of course.
http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada09-10/07/n090720105985.html
So Eto'o is no longer in his prime? We sell lots of players, all the time, some in their prime, some young, some older, the difference between us and all other big clubs is that we barely get any money for our players. It happens all the time. Somehow, our players become very greedy, that might be a reason why we don't get much transfer money, because the offering club won't accept both a big transfer fee and the greedy former Barcelona players' wage demands. Saviola case comes to mind. But do we give more money to our players than other big clubs? Valdes contract suggest that we might do.
Remember also that every time a player has a good season, our board seems to want to improve the contract of the player, instead of respecting the contract that was signed. And when that player has a bad season the following year, we are stuck with the player's improved contract.
Madrid are going to get a fortune from their players they are about to sell. Unwanted players. They are going to get 15-20m for Negredo, just for a start. Is Madrid a selling club?
Just because we sell players that are not wanted, doesn't mean we should give them away like charity. And our policy of publicly stating that this and that player is not wanted anymore and should find a new club, doesn't help the market value either.
i did't see such comment on sky.skysports italia quoted pep wrong for their publicity stunt in italy.
Actually it was the other way around blaugrana1
Laporta 1st, Pep 2nd
I'm not a Laporta enemy. I just think he did terrible in this case and kind of showed his real face. He did good and bad things for the club, like every president. Except Gaspart, who only did bad things.
And groga you can say it's Eto'o's right to get that 15 million, and I wouldn't disagree with you. That's Eto'o's leverage. But it's not like the club doesn't have leverage, it's alright the club's right to bench the guy and not help him setup a even bigger payday.
Lots of players go to the last year of their contracts, but very few leave on Bosmans. Especially such high profile Bosmans. Why? For fear of looking greedy, for fear of retribution from the club. Usually a sale is mutually beneficial. But if Eto'o is wiling to put Barca through that, and not willing to settle for a fee below that to allow Barca to get a transfer fee as well, then he IS greedy. Now I'm not saying Eto'o's wrong. But you can't use a rule obviously designed to enrich yourself while still claiming not to be greedy. It comes with the territory.
Ok how much did we sell deco for? 10 million euros. Would you say his value has increased or decreased since? How much did we sell ronaldinho for? 25 million euros. Would you say his vaule has increased or decreased since? How much did we sell gio for? 6 million + a possible further 5. Would you pay 6 million euros for gio now given that he could not make it at struggling tottenham hotspur? How much did we sell zambrotta for? 9 million for a 31 year old? Thats a pretty good price if you ask me.
thank you robin, for mixing my words, but think too, i owe you nothing and take it for free.
but no matter what, still have respect for you, cule, as you said it right, that we all support the same club
And how much money has madrid gotten from transfers so far? Thats what i thought. Nobody is willing to pay the prices madrid are asking either.
GUYZ, THEY JUST SAID ON SKY SPORTS NEWS...THAT GUARDIOLA SAID IF ETOO WANTS TO STAY THEN THEY WILL NOT SIGN IBRAHIMOVIC!
I dont know which one to believe, that guardiola wants him or no!!!! this is getting reaalllllyyyyy annnoying!
"Remember also that every time a player has a good season, our board seems to want to improve the contract of the player, instead of respecting the contract that was signed. And when that player has a bad season the following year, we are stuck with the player's improved contract."
I love this part. The board can't win. Yaya still had 2 years on his contract. Yet all the fans were blaming the board for not giving Yaya his 'worth'. How the board was stupid blah blah blah. If they sign players to improved contracts and then can't sell them for big fees, then the board is stupid for not cashing in at the right time. It's tough to be in charge :P
You can't compare value now with value then when assessing if we got the right price back then, b4l.
That's what this report also says, blaugrana1.
it's skysports italia who want to please their italian fans,clearly if you read sport.es which is a reliable news paper regarding fcb information pep never said that he wont sign ibrahimovic if eto'o stays.he rather said if eto'o stays he will evolve the situation then
Oh course we can compare blaugrana1 if we sold them cheap and they had great seasons it was a bad deal. If we sold them for their prices and they had bad seasons and are worth less, its a great deal for us.
I think you should all sto p insinuating what exactly happend and stop discussing who is right and who is wrong.
The point is that to keep a team performing after a period off hugh succes you need to make changes in order to keep the will, the desire to win everything again a live!
So it's in the club's best interest to make some drastic changes.. You can turn it however you want but in order to keep the spirit there is no other change better then the swap of Eto'o - Ibrahimovic! And this doesn't meen we're unrespectfull to Eto'o! It is probably one of the best solutions for him to! (BTW! a player who won the CL twice will not be sad to earn a hell lot of money with a team wich is champion in the thirth best league in Europe!!)
No other player was better to transfer then Eto'o:
1: Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol: they are the base of the team
2: Messi: why would you sell the best player in the world!
3: Henry: The perfect mentor for Bojan
4...
And for a new striker I think Ibra is the best option: He hasn't won a mayor cup so far so his disire to win it all is probably the biggest off all strikers. Villa ofcourse would alsow be a good option.. But he can still win with Spain, Ibra can't do that with Sweden..
Grtz
so finally eto'o got his answer from pep.now he should look for his exit in best manner which wont damage his image and force us not to disrespect him
Deco was basically given away for free. 10m euros (7m pounds) for Chelsea is absolutely nothing. Chelsea will not sell him for 10m euros today even if he is 32 years old.
One of the reason we don't get money of course is that we buy players who are 27-28 like Zlatan. We won't get any money for him when he passes 30 in 2 years, but the transfer fee we pay does not reflect this. We pay as he was a 24 year old.
i find it funny many of us werre bashing board for selling deco for 10 m euro.now in chelsea deco didn't play even half of their matches and chelsea would be happy if they are able to sell him for half of the price.our board took exactly right decision by selling deco last summer
10m euros may be 'nothing' for Chelsea but it's 10 extra million in our coffers. Chelsea can't even offload him at all. Inter only offered 11m for both Carvalho (bought for 20m) and Deco because Inter believes Deco has no transfer value due to his high wages and age.
If you guys believe we pay too much for transfers and get too little back. Then perhaps you guys should support the club a bit more when we're negotiating transfers and contracts and be prepared to lose them. When we were going for Filipe I don't know how many comments I saw of 'just pay the 14 million' or 'he's young and worth 12' etc, etc. But if Filipe had flopped then he would have been worth very little then the fans would complain again.
Same with contract negotiations. Everyone just keeps saying 'give Yaya what he wants, give Valdes what he wants, they deserve it' Then later on when we sell the players we can't get a transfer fee because their contracts are high, and other teams know we have to get rid of them just to get their contract off our books.
Dumbness: Yaya is one of the best DMs in the world, but had the same contract as in Monaco, his wage was even lower than Sylvinho! Yaya was benched alot last season for Busquets and his contract was very low for a Barcelona player. Our board was clearly not afraid of losing him, he has always been expendable, not so for most other players who have gotten huge contracts every year. Madrid even take half of the players' image rights away from them. When are we going to do this and get some money from our players?
The "desire" card isn't a good one. That's exaclty what people siad last year. With Eto'o we won't win the Cl again because he doesn't have the desire anymore... If there's on eplayer who always has shown desire, also in the bad years, then it's Eto'o.
yaya deserved pay rise.he was one of our best players last season.thats why although pep didn't want him initially he forced our board to improve yaya's contract
To all barca fans, have faith in this board, before laporta arrived there were 3 trophyless years, since laporta 3 league titles, 2 champions league titles, 1 copa del rey and 2 spanish super copas in the past 5 years. We have been amazed by the magic of ronaldinho and graced by the presence of messi. We have seen a great manager in rijkaard come and go and a club legend guardiola bring the treble. We have witnessed standing ovations in madrid, the first time since maradonna, and the most goal ever scored in the superclasico by barcellona. Have faith, how much more proof do you need?
We should NOT give the players what the hell they want. That is the problem. We do give them what the hell they want, they become greedy when they play for Barcelona, more so than at any other club it seems. What happened to "more than a club"? We are not a small club, we should not be so afraid of losing players to other teams that we feel we have to give players whatever they want just to stay at Barcelona, the best club in the world.
@Anony,
Yaya certainly deserved a raise. But it doesn't mean we should just give into whatever his demands are, it has to be reasonable. Like people keep saying during this Eto'o thing, 'he has a contract' if Yaya was worth so much he shouldn't have signed a contract for so little, otherwise you honor it.
Players like Sylvinho have inflated wages because their wages are carry-overs from when they were at their prime. For example, we offered Eto'o a salary decrease, people would be complaining about 'disrespect' towards Eto'o. But in a year or two he's sure going to decline, and not worthy of a world top 10 contract. At that time we can't ask for our money back, can we?
This is why we should support the club if they feel certain players are expendable, even someone as good as Yaya, because we can't let them hold the club hostage into inflated wage demands (I feel like we've already tread into this area). It'll only hurt us in the long run.
i dont like our fans bashing lapota.he is the most successful president of this decade.we won 3 primera league and 2 UCL trophies under his belt
What do you mean by "this board". Almost non of the current board members were there back in 2003... And it's the players who do the magic, not the board.
Dumbness: Our club do give the players whatever they want. It is a small-club mentality afraid of losing players to other clubs. I think that is the reason why we always get so little money for our players compared to other big clubs.
Yaya-situation just shows that certain people don't value quality and thought Yaya deserved to be one of the worst paid in the squad. Pep clearly didn't value Yaya for the first half season, and I am not sure he still do. I respect Pep, but his priorities are strange sometimes. Including his hate of Eto'o right from the start last summer.
Followup:
I see you were talking about other players and not Yaya. I'm not sure if I understand your point exactly. But I agree with you. Yaya is expendable, so should players like Valdes, Xavi (if he had a greedy personality, which it doesn't appear so).
That's why I was so against giving Valdes so much money. Because his wages clearly do not reflect his talent. We can pay him a small premium for being homegrown, a club symbol, but we have to pay him market conditions. I mean 4-5 million would have made him one of the best paid GKs in the world, besides the obvious couple who are way better than him. But our fans keep pressuring the board to give in to his 6-7-8 million demands. It's just wasting 2-3 million per year of the club's money. Nobody else would ever pay Valdes that kidn of money. But I digress.
Anonymous we get small amount of money for our players cause we are nt a selling club.we only sell a player only when he passes his prime.want example?? ronaldinho,deco,rivaldo?
I'm really surprised everytime I hear what players at other teams get.
One thing is for sure: we're overpaying a lot of players. Some because they're youth players and kind of "symbols" of the club, others (Henry, Hleb, Gudjohnsen) because they arrived with a bigger reputation than they have now.
I think Toure was really one of the few players who was clearly underpaid and who already deserved a pay-rise last year.
By this board i mean the people that run the club with laporta. I never said they were all the same, some have left and some have stayed. But what you cannot deny is that in the last 5 years we have had so much success that we seem to have forgotten the 4 trophyless years that came before it. We dont know what we have till its gone.
I don't think our fans have pressured the club at all regarding Valdes. Most fans I speak to clearly was outraged by Valdes' wage demands which everybody knows he wouldn't even be close to getting at any other club. Most fans wouldn't have a problem getting another keeper, like Asenjo or someone else.
Excusing the board for their decision because they just follow what the fans want is not right.
I think we should be a club that pays worse than other top clubs. We are not a small club. It should be a privilage for any player in the world to be part of Barcelona, our fantastic philosophy, our institutions, our glory. Now also, treble champions. But the small-club mentality of fearing losing our players to some other clubs, is still there, which makes our players too greedy when they see we cave in to their wage demands. Take away half the players' image rights. Just like Madrid does. We are a big club. Come on!
to dumbness, even said, that you should change your name, as your comments ain't dumb, but think you clever enough, that you realize by yourself, that the reason for this different opinions and truths are found in the mix of true-or-false-media-barca-etoo-etc.-informations and that everyone grabbed one of the truths for himself and now defend it, as the basis was unproved of his worth.
so the only fact is, that nobody here knows what really was going on and that the finding of truth is beyond our reach, as no one here is involved into barca-actions.
discussion is good, but it must have a strong or proved basis, otherwise it can happen, as it did here, that some start to defend etoo and others the board without being free of influences also caused by the media.
nobody can say how big an iceberg is, with only seeing the top and the rest underwater.
but the motivation of people here to dicuss, was the reason i said "would be good, if some world's regimes would be that enthusiastic, then maybe, world wouldn't have so many unemployment and homeless" and not to attack you.
to robin, was hard with my words against you, as i think you have the heart on the right place showed by your words, so take my excuse.
ONE LOVE!!!!!...can't wait for season starts, as barcas football is primary again and not this business stuff
Sigh inter are saying they are now beginning negotiations with etoo tmrw. Looks like it could be a while again before any deal is done
@djoef,
Exactly! Inter for example, Ibra makes 12, I think Viera makes 5.5 or 6m per year. Everyone else makes less. The most senior players on their squad, like Zanetti makes 5 or just below 5. Maxwell made 2.5, Maicon made 4.
This is why I cringe every time our fans say 'we should give 6m to Yaya, or Valdes deserves 7m!' We already have way too many people making more than 5m, and very average players like Hleb and Guddy are making 4m.
We have 20% lower taxes for foreigners than them too...
Yeah, Eto'o is past his prime. So is Caceres, so is Hleb. It has nothing to do with prime. We sell players who the manager doesn't want, like most other big clubs, but other big clubs still get good prices for their players. Hell, Madrid got 22m for Owen and 42m for Robinho.
One problem is that we buy older players of course. This will be the problem with Zlatan too, as he will be past 30 in only 2 years, yet the price we pay is the same as if he was 24.
p.s. in yayas case, the fact was, that he was promised a pay-rise should his performances be well.
so that was a must, because of a promise
To:blaugrana, " First PEP GUARDIOLA says he does NOT think we can keep etoo and sign ibrahimovic.
AND THEN, LAPORTA says: Ibrahimovic is coming whether etoo stays or leaves!
Something really wierd is happening..PEP can u please explain these two comments made by barca. Thank ." I think Guardiola makes more sense than Laporta but Laporta and Trixxi are the people who will decide who comes and who goes . Guardiola can ONLY make certain requests but he has little to do with the actual signings . I don't believe much of what Laporta says anyway . Didn't he say once that Victor Valdes was the BEST goalkeeper in the world ?
@LeonDragon
I doubt we promised him a number, because if we did there wouldn't be any negotiations. We promised (if you believe him) him a raise, he demanded something that was unreasonable. Secondly, what good is 'a promise'? How do we know his agent is telling the truth? If we promised him more money then why didn't we just write it into the contract that he would get a raise in 2 years or a year?
@Anony,
Madrid didn't really want to sell Robinho, they were kind of forced to sell him. Lots of clubs wanted him, including us. It's like if Alves demanded to be sold now. I bet we could get 30+ million for him.
Caceres we just plain overpaid, which is why it's a good thing we didn't overpay for Filipe, at least we 'learned'. Hleb flopped but we wanted Arshavin and Hernanes. And that's the other reason why we always overpay. Other teams expect us to overpay. Zenit ended up selling Arshavin to Arsenal for ~15 + clauses but when we bid 15m they demanded 25m. Every club feels that way. If you go and read Deportivo forums they're UPSET that we didn't offer 15m. They think we were trying to rip them off by not offer that. Just because we're Barca everyone expects us to pay big fees, it's hard to negotiate that way.
Anon, the one that called me "Idiot" (cos there are so many "anons" here).
I am a matured bloke who, so I wouldnt exchange words with you. I believe you have acted to the best of your abiltity and we have all seen, tho, some would agree with you and smile at that, some would thinks its not matured enough calling me such, and for those defending him saying he doesnt have to reveal his name, Do you think "nouBarca" is my name? You think my parents know anything about Barca to have given me such a name? Its called username. And I am even bolder and would be sending my pictures after the Tottenham game. i live in London so you can come get me if you think you can. I am too BIG for this. My EGO is a big as Eto's..lol
I rest my case on this Eto "arguement" as I have been seen as a "board basher". My point has always been that we gave Eto a say. If we had dealth with the issues in a better way earlier, we wouldnt have this mess in our hands and if we knew Eto was a "ticking time bomb", why did we watch him blow up in our faces? Only a fool would not appreciate and Love this current board for its achievements. I love Larpota but that doesnt mean he is perfect.
Eto is human and he feels hes been hurt. We forgive, but the speed at which we forgive (as human) varies. But The point some people are making his BARCA is far greater than Eto. I ALSO AGREE. I am saying that The UK, where I live is great, but if I feel hurt by the Nation, I can "deal" with them in my best possible way.
I wish BARCA a trophy filled season as I LOVE BARCA just like all of you.
LeónDragón,it's okay dude.i wasn't hurt at all by ur comments.
@NouBarca,
I'm the Anonymous who was making all the responses. But I didn't NOT call you an idiot. That was just some random guy who posted 1 comment out of nowhere.
I was baffled as to why LeonDragon said I insulted you, when I know I never insulted you. Now I know it's just a misunderstanding. I was always disagreeing with yours and groga's views but I never called you guys any names.
I meant to say "did NOT"
Dumbness: I don't think we get 30m+ for Alves if he wanted to leave. We will do like we always do. Tell the whole world that he is unwanted and that we want to get rid of him as soon as possible. In the end, we will sell him for 15-20m.
You didn't comment on the Owen example. 22m for him is great. And I could go on and on with other examples. Madrid got 15m for Woodgate as well.
The fact is, other teams simply get good money for their players, and I suspect a big reason is the wage structure and greed that pops into the players' head once they become Barcelona players.
Regarding why we overpay, that is another story. But once other teams realize that no club overpay as much as Barcelona, perhaps except Chelsea, then all clubs who sell to us will want to pressure us for the most amount of money.
if pep can't handle eto'o's ego i reckon handling ibrahimovic will be a tough challenge for him.villa was best suited for him.let's hope for the best
I didn't comment on Owen because you're right, it's awfully high for him. I suspect it's because people still believed he was a world class striker even if he flopped.
I think with Owen and Woodgate there's another issue at play. Them both being English it drives up their transfer fee. England produces so few good players that they're snapped quickly and English clubs pay a premium to have an English talent. Now even more so because of the impending 6+5 rule.
I think you're wrong about Alves though, I think lots of clubs (Chelsea for one) would snap him up pretty quickly, in today's market, 25 million minimum.
@your second point.
That's why we gotta stop overpaying and draw a line. Squad players who come into challenge for spots should be 6-10 million. If they're not willing to sell then we look for another target unless that guy is REALLY good. Instead of paying 15-16 million for every player brought in to be just a squad player.
Wait and see, Madrid is going to get very good prices for their players that are unwanted.
We haven't learned at all. The way we behave on the transfer market, I can totally believe the reports in Catalan press that we were ready to pay 36m plus Eto'o for Forlan or that we were ready to pay 11m+7m incentives for Filipe, but luckily for us, their presidents refused.
Ungrateful Barca fans. With a healthy Eto Barca was always on top. 130 goals 2 champions leauge trophies. What disrespect, I cannot wait for the season to start for u guys to miss his goals and see Madrid take over. Or, and by the way, my prediction is Barca meets Inter in the semi Finals Champion league and Eto gets his revenge with 2 superb goals. Ha ha ha, Ungrateful bastards. Cambron, Salud Inter Milan.
go away you Madrid fans... you are not supposed to be here
hmm.. Anon, calling fellow Barca fans "ungrt. ba****s" would only heat things up. I know how you feel cos I feel the same, but lets jsuta ll try keep it low and express our vies in matured ways. I was just called an "Idiot" so, we dont want things like that associated with Barca fans. we are "more than fans". Lets leave name-callings to MAD-rid.lol
Peace
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada09-10/07/n090720105985.html
the news here is more positive than being posted in blog. Please All Barca fans be positive with ur team. We are the fans, not the owner of the club. We need to respect all the elements of the club, either board of director, coach, and players. Never disrespect any one of them, As for Etoo, Pep has already emphasized his intention not to use Etoo since last year. Just let him go with the great name as Barca's Legend. That is the biggest contribution we can give to him after all these years.
madrid fans THAT worried about barca! We might meet inter/etoo in the semi of the CL and we might lose, but its still two stages further than the 1st knockout round!
what you have to consider is that madrid may get good prices for some of thier players, but dores that benefit them when they are paying 45,50,65,80 mil for players. for the price of ronaldo and kaka you could have the barca team that destroyed madrid at the bernabeu.
as for etoo, wish him all the best, in time he will be seen as a legend.
as eto'o is leaving his fans are losing patience.but still it's bad to disrespect someone just because he doesn't like eto'o.everyone has his own opinion but you can't use bad language just because you are fan of a particular player.show others respect.you will also get respect from your opponents.but if you are here just to support eto'o i would say barca had many more legends in the club in past.it's just like a train.player will arrive and leave every season but club will akways remain same
SJP: We are in no position to talk when we are offering 45m+Eto'o for Zlatan who are older than both Ronaldo and Kaka.
I also think it is better to pay 35m for Benzema than the same price for Hleb and Caceres. Just my opinion.
without going any further, want to say, that i expect, that toure wasn't promised a direct sum of money, but the fact, that he came as a nobody from monaco, who also played for a "giant" club like olympiacos, leads to the fact, that he surely was paid very little.
so it's normal, that he, after he signed, was promised more, as barca surely don't pay much for a talented no-name.
for me, believe that toure is worth, to find a solution with him and make him happy, as it got already done, without claiming on a direct sum of money.
toure is the future, talented and a player who gives the dm-position a new identity and worth, so it's good to see him appreciated with a contract that suits both, club and player.
that was, what i wanted to spot.
agree, with those, who say, some are overpaid, but that also could lead back to the world of speculations, as NO ONE IS INVOLVED INTO BARCA-ACTIONS AND SURELY DON'T KNOW WHAT REALLY GOES ON (with dressing-room-affairs, contract-or-transfer-business, player-characters, etc.) so my advice, for me, and those who have the same thaughts, let's concentrate again on the sporty focus.
p.s. hate all the freaks, who call cules madridistas, as i think, that's the lowest or weakest form to bring a point through.
ask the man in the mirror...
GOT LOVE FOR ALLLLL CULES HERE, AS WE ARE ALLLLL A PART OF THE GREATEST AND PRESTIGIOUS CLUB IN THE WORLD, THE MASTERS OF TIKI TAKA, THE STRIKERS WHO DEFEND (with surely etoo was meant:), THE DEFENDERS WHO ATTACK AND ALL THE TALENT THAT WILL ALSO IN THE FUTURE MAKE US ENJOY FOOTBALL ON HIGHEST LEVEL!!!!!
visca el barca e visca catalunya!
i am afraidd barca is going to suffer if they have to give Etoo out. you can't just reconcile the fact that some one who made you victorous, is leaving and you are happy. i bet you barca is going to fall this season. i understand xavi and iniesta are just happy because they think etoo was disturbing their way to be the player of the year. and looking closely, gardiola is not happy with etoo which makes me to think he's a recist. if etoo leave barca,their performance this season will be poor.
So many comments X-D I'm just babbling to get my share of this babbling...it has been babbling since the end of season,really.
Geez another non barca fans posting something negative here. Can u spend ur time doing something else rathef thsn bad mouthing our coach and player?
i know there are just being jealous because an african is making news in europe. etoo is a big player no matter where he stays he will continue to be. and above all there are just being ungrateful because barca is what it is today is becacuse of etoo. whether you like it or not?
i can't believe this!!! etoo is the best player and he is the one impressing me to watch and support the club. let the board do something on this!!!!!!!!
if we suffer we will.i don't mind.it's better to let a player leave the club with whom boss is not in good terms.who creates dressing room unrest,makes other players upset.even if we don't win anything without eto'o its not end of the world.we will rise again.look at arsenal,juventus or even liverpool.they didn't win anything for many years but still they are considered as giant clubs.
i on't get you anonymous.you already called us ungrateful or even ba***** just because eto'o is leaving.we are not operatingthe club.neither we are board members nor coach or technical staffs of the club.so what's the point here bashing us man.i even know you are not even barca fan,you just came here to full fill your ill intention d
Everyone needs to chill out. This is all speculation that you people are arguing about. As well as these numbers being tossed around are all speculation. All we can do is be patient and wait. Don't worry I'm sure when Eto'o leaves or stays he will clarify what really happened. How can people say we are overpaying for Ibra when we haven't even signed him. Basing your opinion on speculation shows that your easily swayed by the opinions of others.
anony, you're wrong about xavi.
last year, when etoo was to leave, but stayed, it was xavi who spoke of him, as their "best signing", like this year he spoke positive bout him too. but, fact is, that guardiola MAYBE don't want him for some reason and as the responsible person for club's success he has the right too, if me or others like it or not.
some things could be done better, as there surely were some differences, which also lead to this whole debate and negative circumstances, but no one knows the whole truth.
to those who say barca is no selling club or barca pay too much for transfers, for me, i disagree, someone above said, that one reason is, that the players play their high at our club and then leave, when their time is nearly passing by, and i totally agree. but for the others like ronaldo, figo or ronaldinho, etc. we were paid good money, and as a buying club we baught players like giuly (7mio.), toure (now, one of best dm in the world)(10mio.), pique (5mio.), etc., what shows also, that buying high is not the standard, except the "want honey-need money" players.
to etoo...for us fans, etoo should be respected for what he is and was for our club, a part of the machine, that won us trophies, a legend. to talk negative about his character is out of our range, as we don't know him personally or pay his money.
Now, i'm out...everybody in the game, stay the same!
Visca Barca, Visca Pep, Visca catalunya y Visca Zlatan!!!!
It would be intelligent to put the source of the information in the story to avoid any copyright issues. It's all about credibility. If you are not the source of the information, credit the organization that is, even if it is a press conference. If you are not at the press conference yourself, then you cannot be the source. This hurts the blog's credibility.
@Je me'appelle Samuel...I understand it's a rotation, but if that's the case, it's not hard for the writers here to simply put that in the report. If you write a story without identifying a source, you are claiming authorship (primary source). I'm just trying to protect these guys. Believe me, I love this site for the reasons above — I can't read Spanish. Criticism is healthy.
WTF, ppl, chill.
168 comments?!
i usually like reading debates here, but i will die of old age before reading all the comments.
j/k
it's good to see the community so active!
I really dont understand why ppl like noubarca, groga and other barca haters and staunch protagonists of etoo have been allowed to comment here. Please go to inter blogspots and comment about your dear player. WE DONT NEED AN INEFFICIENT PLAYER at barca. That is the view of cules and the board and the coach. so get lost already ! I remember pulling my hair out a million times when that inept etoo used to miss sitters and he is nowhere near top class zlatan. See the stats in Italian league and it is very difficult to score in a defensive league as that. Also he is world class and it will be dynamite in the opposition with him and our midfield dishing out balls and slamming them.
Etoo supporters and his entourage please go to INTER website to post your hate speech and leave us cules alone. Just google for inter fan base website blogs and comment their not here. Dont bad mouth our coach and board members.
Etoo fans...your frustration is understood...and i kind of understand Etoo's contract demands too. Etoo knows if he leaves Barca, he's not going to have a midfield feeding him opportunities from now on. That is why he wants a 5 year deal with a high salary. He knows that Barca gave him everything he has....and the moment he leaves he will be a regular striker. Mark my words...Etoo without Barca's midfield and attack is nothing.
Now please if you are a barca fan more than an etoo fan than continue to post but at least be objective. If, however, you're an etoo fan more than a Barca fan then i echo some of the sentiments here that tell you guys to find inter blogs and start posting there.
groga,noubarca are already googling inter fan site.unfortunately they also need sitters like eto'o.so until they find one guys please tolerate those babies.
hopefully eto'o is leaving tomorrow.i wish he will take all his babies here with him lol
john little, cocky and phaty4barca, if you want people to take you freaks serious, say something and don't bore us with baby-b***s***talk, kiddies.
blablabla...your fathers can't be proud of you.
climb back on your trees and don't waste worth time
LeónDragón,what's yur problem baby eto'o??upset your papa eto'o is leaving tomorrow??ahaa i feel sorry for you baby
lol john are you sure the guy above you is junior eto'o??i feel sorry for him.he must be upset for leaving barca.don't worry LeónDragón baby milan is not a bad city
see, i'm not dr. doolittle, so i doubt that you freaks would understand my words, nor i'm a professional babysitter.
but, i think, i can call myself a true cule, building my opinion on facts, not on rubbish, babyboytalk.
to me, it's just football, barca, the club i like and players i put worth on for what they did for the club. if etoo stays or not, at the end, doesn't really matter to me.
but you clowns are just a shame for the word cule.
not motivated nor interested and also not enough bananas to teach you monkey, so ask the man in the mirror, son
"LeónDragón,what's yur problem baby eto'o??upset your papa eto'o is leaving tomorrow??ahaa i feel sorry for you baby"
hahahahahaha :)
lol john are you sure the guy above you is junior eto'o??i feel sorry for him.he must be upset for leaving barca.don't worry LeónDragón baby milan is not a bad city
:) god must have a strange sense of humor or was just too lazy when he send people like you on this earth
hey leondragy dont get upset my baby your kid etoo will end up like the clown deco or dos santos!! there is nobody to dish out passes at inter.
sorry i didnt knw that Neanderthals too blog here, ok dont wory i will teach you googling later, first learn sign language
doubt that you know what a neanderthal is, as it seems that you need many more time to reach this stage of evolution.
but it's okay my son, your momma loves me too
@anonymous who replied to me, i know all about eto'o and his hissy fits, believe me. but see, aside from my post being deliberately ironic, am thinking if a coach gets rid of a player cos he cant get along with them -just for that simple reason - then he has no business managing a football team. but things have gone too far bet these 2, that takes it out of the usual situation, i know that too. just that to say it publicly doesnt really help the situation does it. but likepep said he has tell things straight, he cannot live otherwise. i respect that.
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