Catalan sports paper El Mundo Deportivo claims that the goal scored by Barcelona player Bojan Krkic during yesterday's super cup game against Athletic Bilbao was in fact illegal since it would be explicitly forbidden to play the ball when holding one of the goal posts.
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Is this what Henry was telling him after the goal?
LOL... Li'l Bojan should have been more careful. Or else, as suggested by many of fans should have laid down and head the ball into the back of the net :P
bojan is such a bad boy, he he, would have liked to see the reactions on the barca players if the referee had followed the rules
That's a lesson for him to remember. In fact it was for me too...
I didn't know that rule...so the goal was never counted? (didn't watch the game)
The fact that nobody (not even the ref) remembered this rule proves how obscure it is.
I bet if bojan would have picked up the ball with his hands and spiked it into the net everybody would know it was illegal.
Probably some archiac rule from back in the 20's. If it is illegal to play the ball when holding one of the goalposts, lets suppose a defender (like canavarro did last season) jumps and keeps the ball out of the net as he hits the post is it a penalty for the attacking team?
i didnt know that rule.i would love if bojan stoped the ball in the line and go down and header it in,it would be way too embaressing for atletic....like pato's gesture in this weeks goal"where the opposing players were offended"why be offended because your not good enough?if you are then stop him legaly before scoring and prove you are better ,if you are not these gestures give you stregth to become better to not embaress yourself like that again...
Thats probably the strangest thing I have ever heard x) Why not? I get it if you use the post to jump higher when you are going to head, but otherwise it sounds very strange
I hadn't heard about that rule before either so checked the rules again on FIFA's website and I couldn't find it mentioned. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, I just searched the 150-page document for the word "post" but there was no such rule mentioning the post.
ronaldo fenomeno never did anything special when he face an empty goal. i think that is classy. u don't need extra entertainment from how a player score in front of empty goal.
I did the same thing, except I searched it with the word score also, but without luck. Man, that document is thick! Poor refs... I could see the importance of the rule if the player doing it would gain anything from it, but in this case it seems ridiculous to disallow the goal. On the matter of stopping the ball on the goal-line and nudging it in with the head (or ass, as someone suggested) would for sure grant Bojan a yellow card for unsportsmanlike behavior. However I think the gaol would still stand. Or do you guys know anything about that rule?
yellow card for unsportsmanlike behavior?no m8 its a normal goal and i have seen it at least 10 times in official games (stop to the line and head it in).there is no reason to give a yellow card for it.
i bet bojan didnt do it cause guardiola would scold him later for disrespecting his opponents ,but for me strikers should be more egoists and more bad boys....remember cantona,now thats a striker the opponents feared :)
I am football referre...and I knew it yesterday that goal is illegal...I didn`t know for this, If you hold the goal post...But there is another rule, that player who has empty goal and doesn`t score it in normal way...must get yellow card for unsporting behaviour against other team...and I think it is unsporting...
ozil scored 4 goals 23 assist last season
Bojan should have just kicked the f-ing ball into the net. It looked like at first he was just trying to control the ball because it was rolling pretty fast after he beat the keeper. But then to slow down and give the ball like three touches before rolling it into the net while holding the post--that struck me as a bit immature. Just my opinion. Sure, he wasn't dancing or showboating, and maybe he was even trying to AVOID looking like a jerk after putting in a goal off a mistake by a team losing the game 2-0 and lacking any chance to win on aggregate... but I still hope Pep talked to him.
Also, it would have been a much better highlight even if he had just passed it into the net after beating the keeper. I can watch highlights all day of Ronaldo and Ronnie juking keepers and passing it into the middle of an empty net. Bojan weirdly managed to make his goal look less impressive than it was.
But who decides what is normal Tudor? So if you blast the ball into the empty net is that normal? What about if u flick it up with your boot and head it in? Is that normal? I remember Raul doing a 360 degree spin into an empty net should he have been carded?
If you look at the goal again bojan takes the ball past the gk with speed and then has to run up to it and catch it. I think he just slows it down after that because he wants to ensure that he takes his time and makes sure he scores. If you look at around 6 or 7 seconds in the film you'd see that his first touch makes the ball almost run out of play and a little wide, his second touch took him about in line with the post at which point he is probably thinking he'd better be careful and just ease the ball in before something really embarassing happens.
Also i think he was trying to be respectful and not blast the ball into the empty net. It was almost and apologetic goal. I guess if he acted like an asshole like inzaghi and blasted the ball into the net and ran around the stadium with his face contorted like a maniac we would all be saying what a great goal it was.
messiiiiiiiiii: There's too much of a risk of missing when you just kick. Sure, there's almost no chance of missing on an empty net from that distance...but if a player gets too excited, it can happen. Bojan did the mature thing by keeping his head and just walking it in.
And b4l is right, what's wrong with Bojan's goal that it was unsporting? I could see how stopping it on the goal line and heading it in would be unsporting (most definitely is in my book and as a ref, I'd give a yellow). Or maybe it he had stopped, looked back, and taunted someone. He just walked it in.
On a more positive note though, did the goal remind anybody of etoo? With the killer instinct. I told several ppl here that you dont score all those yth goals without having some killer instinct as a striker. He seems to have picked up a few tricks from etoo about being a poacher in the box.
He said he slowed down because he expected the referee to whistle. It certainly didn't look unsporting, just easing the ball in.
if u flick it up with your boot and head it in? - this is yellow card and indirect free kick for opponent...If you do this, than you show the you don`t respect your opponent...and that you are making jokes of him...
It is the same, if you flick it up with your boot and head it to your keeper so that he could pick it up with his arms....It is not allowed...
The fact is that you are not allowed to do this..It is disrespectfull
fair points all... i don't think he deserved a yellow, and i don't think it was unsporting. it was just a strange way to finish the goal--strange enough that we're all discussing it. the way to avoid any controversy is to just do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nafwET_TYvM
courtesy of the great ronaldo
i agree b4l that it seemed an almost apologetic goal, but he sure looked happy to have scored it--notice the pumping fists.
anyway, i love bojan. BOJAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!
But this is the book...there are a lot of football rules that are broken every game and refs don`t wistle them....
I know that if I would cancel that goal players would run after me all over the pitch....
There's always some interpretation I guess, certainly in something like this. You cannot always know the intention of the player just by watching how he does it. You can't look in his head.
Chill out guys. He explained that he thought the ref was going to whistle, so he slowed down. After that he just eased it in calmly. Also notice he wasn't trying to embarrass them because he didn't celebrate like crazy.
I actually think what he did is good. He goes from poacher and getting a back pass, to calm headed forward. That is something you need to have.
I'm not buying this rule the slightest bit. There must be stipulations to go with that rule because I don't think that goal was illegal at all.
What about when a defending player clear out the ball off the goal line? He also can't hold the post, right? Well I'm pretty sure I've watched that like trillion of times.
There is no foul in flicking the ball up and heading it into the net.
You only foul when you do that to pass the ball to the keeper - that is an attempt to circumvent the back pass law and you get a yellow and the opponent an indirect free kick.
Tudor, shouldnt the rule be that the refs need to use their discretion? i mean look at the goal. Obviously he didnt need to use the post to score, it was open. Maybe it was a reflex or he wasnt thinking..
How can it be a foul to flick the ball up and head it back to the goalkeeper? I have never ever seen that called in my life.
the goal was counted and nobody can do anything about
bojan you must be very carefull,i guess he did not know all the rule of football,he is still young and that was what henry and keita wa telling him after the goal.
lol.thats my boy.
Oh Shit! Bojan Sucks! it's the end of the world as we know it ....... blah bla blah......... let the kid be cocky he needs the boost in confidence it's bad enough that hes seriously overrated. c'mon let the kid have some fun.... its only a matter of time before he cracks under pressure
I think that that's what Henry was telling him after his goal! Who cares he deserved it even if it was a bit cheeky to walk it to the goal like that and also no-body complained about it so it means that maybe it was a rule 80 years ago coz someone must complain about it if it's really eligal!
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